In a recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck outlined how a recent directive from major studios is affecting the way filmmakers are told to write films.

Studios like Netflix are realizing that more and more people are simply putting films and TV shows on in the background as they scroll through their phones. As a result, the scriptwriters are required to reiterate major plot points numerous times through the story, in order that the semi-disengaged viewer will still be able to follow along.

Here’s a closer look at what Damon and Affleck had to say: